what to can you do to prevent kids from being indoctrinated and possibly become jw one day?.
what i do (son is 7, twins were born this year):.
talk openly with my son about cults and how they trick people.talk openly about jw history: false prophecies, pyramids, ruthrford.....signed my son for soccer team.help him to find "worldly" friends.although i hate to listen jws bs, when my wife goes to the meeting i go with them to make sure no elders are "encouraging" them.although i am an agnostic today, i read the bible and pray with the family, becouse otherwise my wife would take over ... (since daddy is "spiritually weak"...)i work hard to not be df to not lose control over my son spiritual education.... what else you do/suggest?.
Carla: Yes, we are divided at home... Wife tels my son it is evil to celebrate birthdays.... I tell him It is OK .... Son comes to me and says: Well I dont know what is right, you each say something different....
Of course there is some effect of Brainwashing, thats why Iam troubled...
Albert
... how did you handle to let others know you do not consider yourself as one of jws anymore?
did you tell them straigh?
did you explain details?.
Heartbreaker:
Albert
... how did you handle to let others know you do not consider yourself as one of jws anymore?
did you tell them straigh?
did you explain details?.
OnTheWayOut: Did you explain them deatails why.... what kind of problems it creates to you... did you start celebrating birthdays with them from scertain moment???
How did they react?
Albert
what to can you do to prevent kids from being indoctrinated and possibly become jw one day?.
what i do (son is 7, twins were born this year):.
talk openly with my son about cults and how they trick people.talk openly about jw history: false prophecies, pyramids, ruthrford.....signed my son for soccer team.help him to find "worldly" friends.although i hate to listen jws bs, when my wife goes to the meeting i go with them to make sure no elders are "encouraging" them.although i am an agnostic today, i read the bible and pray with the family, becouse otherwise my wife would take over ... (since daddy is "spiritually weak"...)i work hard to not be df to not lose control over my son spiritual education.... what else you do/suggest?.
Garyneal: Thanks, you've given me reason why I should continue to 'support' my wife in her attendance by attending with her.
I really hate the time spent in KH, but at least I can give some additional comments to my wife on what was said during the program ("Do you really think it is normal to discuss in the church oral, anal sex and mutual masturbation as we did during todays WT study honey????) and to make sure nobody talks to my kid when the meeting is over ... there is a small parking lot at the KH, so when we come late, we have to leave as soon as the meeting is over, because it is packed ...
Chalam: You need to make sure you read anything but the NWT
Yes we read from other Bible than NWT, Iam happy my wife has no problem with that...
I think this is highly dangerous in many ways.
What can you do, if your wife woul bring them there anyways...? So at least Iam there to protect....
Carla: Critical thinking skills is a must!
Great point! Thanks!
you will start bringing the kids to a different religious service
I did try to arrange that, but my son told mummie, and she told him that in another church he would do a false worship... so son came back to me that he doesnt wont do false worship... I really do not want to take kids as hostages, so I did not push it....
Quandry: Thanks, I hope to win mama as well some day - by now its a great succes we go along with no problems.... Other wife would call elders on me already....
Albert
if you were a leader of a small group that should survive a worldwide disaster and will be left on their own, not being able to use now common services would you:.
a) encourage your members to learn all possible skills and to get all possible today available education, maybe even organized "who will learn what" to cover really every aspect of future life and to be really prepared ..... or.
b) discurage your members from education, letting them just sit home or at meetings and keep repeating: "the end is comming, the end is comming ... be ready, the end is comming...".
If you were a leader of a small group that should survive a worldwide disaster and will be left on their own, not being able to use now common services would you:
a) encourage your members to learn all possible skills and to get all possible today available education, maybe even organized "who will learn what" to cover really every aspect of future life and to be really prepared ....
OR
b) discurage your members from education, letting them just sit home or at meetings and keep repeating: "The end is comming, The end is comming ... Be ready, the end is comming..."
By choosing b) GB proves they do not really believe Armageddon is comming ....
What do you think rank and file opinion is on that? Do they believe angels will build bridges and houses and will make clothes and shoes in the NW?
Albert
what to can you do to prevent kids from being indoctrinated and possibly become jw one day?.
what i do (son is 7, twins were born this year):.
talk openly with my son about cults and how they trick people.talk openly about jw history: false prophecies, pyramids, ruthrford.....signed my son for soccer team.help him to find "worldly" friends.although i hate to listen jws bs, when my wife goes to the meeting i go with them to make sure no elders are "encouraging" them.although i am an agnostic today, i read the bible and pray with the family, becouse otherwise my wife would take over ... (since daddy is "spiritually weak"...)i work hard to not be df to not lose control over my son spiritual education.... what else you do/suggest?.
iknowall: great points!
Two weeks ago we had my wifes cousin with her husband and 16 years old son (all hard core dubs...). The boy just started study in a new school - specialized in construction engeneering...
I asked him: So how do you like the new school?
He said: Well, not really, I think I will not do this for livivng...
Me: So what hobbies you have? What do you want to do for living?
Him: I dont know. I have no hobbies. I hope we will have the New world by then....
It was so sad and ridiculous... When they left, I asked my wife: Do you want our son be like this? She had to admit it was really sad...
Albert
what to can you do to prevent kids from being indoctrinated and possibly become jw one day?.
what i do (son is 7, twins were born this year):.
talk openly with my son about cults and how they trick people.talk openly about jw history: false prophecies, pyramids, ruthrford.....signed my son for soccer team.help him to find "worldly" friends.although i hate to listen jws bs, when my wife goes to the meeting i go with them to make sure no elders are "encouraging" them.although i am an agnostic today, i read the bible and pray with the family, becouse otherwise my wife would take over ... (since daddy is "spiritually weak"...)i work hard to not be df to not lose control over my son spiritual education.... what else you do/suggest?.
What to can you do to prevent kids from being indoctrinated and possibly become JW one day?
What I do (son is 7, twins were born this year):
WHAT ELSE YOU DO/SUGGEST?
Albert
would you say that's the beginning of the end?
hubby's researching if the beginning date can be proven from the bible its starting date is 607. clearly, he won't find the answer.... here's hoping he will see the light... .
Dear SCHOLAR,
thank you for your kind offer, I must admitt I am recently under such apostate influence as you mention in your post. It would be very kind of you, if you would help me to straighten the confidence in 607. It would help me to maintain my integrity as JW and to trust again fully to our brothers in the Governing Body. So please:
Thank you for your kind help brother, your brief and specific answer will be very apreciated and will help me to cope with apostate influence.
Albert
... how did you handle to let others know you do not consider yourself as one of jws anymore?
did you tell them straigh?
did you explain details?.
wantstoleave - I think if we told somebody (our kids teachers...) straight we are JW, we should now tell them straight, but without details, we are not in anymore ... otherwise they will be confused.
If somebody told you he is a strict vegetarian and few months later you meet him in a steak restarant would you expect brief explanation?
Albert
... how did you handle to let others know you do not consider yourself as one of jws anymore?
did you tell them straigh?
did you explain details?.
I work many years for a big company as an executive manager and several hundreds of people know me as a JW, however it was only one person i told this directly several years ago (the lady asked me directly). Others know it indirectly... so it is easier for me now to make sometimes remarks "I was a JW..." Last week I was at a lunch with one of my managers and I made a remark "... I know a lot about manipulation, since I was a JW years ago...." in a second she asked very curious: "You were or you are one?" So I could explained it a bit in the way: I was a JW in the past, and if you have heard I am one, it was incorrect information....... now I hope she will help to spread the info in the company ....
Albert
